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OBAMA: NOT A COMMUNIST

May 21, 2010

I’ve read that there are people who believe Barack Obama is a Communist, including one who writes for this blog. I think it’s very likely that the person who wrote that couldn’t tell you what it means. Seriously, what’s Communism, besides an insult? Would you know it if you saw it? Which isn’t likely, since there isn’t very much of it around these days. Seriously, if you think Obama’s practicing Communism, there’s a bridge I can let you have, cheap. The USSR, where it all started, the biggest and longest-lived Communist country, has been gone for awhile now. Most of the other states with one political party dedicated to some form of Communism have reformed their system to make it more like capitalism (China and Vietnam for sure). No, it’s not entirely gone (Colombia and Chavez), but the old-style revolutionaries are pretty far away from us and it’s hardly like Russia in 1917. If you’re really worried, though, stay away from Bangladesh and the Philippines.

But if you think you might’ve seen it, here’s what it is, so you’ll know for sure:

1. theory advocating elimination of private property
2. a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
(Merriam-Webster)

If that doesn’t quite do it, here’s a little bit of Karl Marx (as in Marxism): “class society breeds alienation”—by which he meant that the working class have fewer chances (because they’re working class) to earn more and/or get good jobs. Marx also says that it fulfils a basic human need to have satisfying work and a share of the resulting product, and that goes for everyone (think of the idle rich). His plan was that the workers control the means of production (i.e., factory laborers run the factory themselves), and a revolution of the working class brings about a society in which everyone lives, as the saying goes, “from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.” Everyone has a vote, everyone gets to do the work s/he wants to do, and there won’t be any hunger or oppression because everyone will be happy and productive and call each other Comrade and not feel like oppressing anyone.

What’s Obama done that’s the least bit Marxist? Is he abolishing anyone’s right to inherit? Doing away with your right to own your personal possessions? Making Donald Trump open his doors to the homeless? That health care program seems to scare more than a few people into screaming “Communism!” I don’t know why. Lots of politicians, Democrats and Republicans both, have talked up a National Health Service for lots of years, suggesting we get with most of the other First-World countries that way. Medicare and Medicaid were started in 1965, and they’re both forms of national health insurance. Was LBJ a communist? That would’ve been pretty rich, since he had us pretty invested in fighting communism in Southeast Asia.

Would a Communist bail out the megabanks? Sure, there were some Congressional hearings, but if any of the bankers got a smack with a ruler it didn’t make the tabloids.

Think about this: the top 400 richest Americans have a combined wealth of more than $1.3 TRILLION. The richest 1% of Americans earns more than the bottom 50%. In 1973, the top 1% of earners collected 8% of the national income; by 2006 it was almost 23%. That’s a hell of a lot of money concentrated in the hands of a very small group. There’s also a very big gap growing between that group and the underclass. Historically, that tends to mean things get really bad for everyone.

So this handful of bankers gets bailed out, after running the US off the rails and shaking up the rest of the world as well. Goldman Sachs made a pile for themselves helping the Greek government hide their debt, and there’s nothing to stop them from doing more of the same. They can spend the bailout cash redecorating and so what. Would a Communist think that was OK? Someone who was into a classless society and the redistribution of wealth?

Obama’s not even as much of a left-leaner as that radical FDR, and it would be a great time to be one of those because we’re in the worst recession since the Great Depression of Franklin Roosevelt’s era. with the joblessness to match. FDR started the WPA, which created government programs with jobs for people to work all over the country and accomplish some enormous projects, like bringing electricity to the rural South. There are a few dorms on the campus of my alma mater that were built by the WPA—probably a lot of cities around the country can point out something from that time. There were lots and lots of ways the WPA got people working. It was work, not a “handout”, and it ended the Depression. Obama’s not proposing another WPA and that program was farther to the left than anything he’s done so far!

Anyway, if there had been any VALIDATED evidence that he has anti-American beliefs, he wouldn’t have been sworn in as President. I’m talking for-real, proven, no BS evidence that he plans to overthrow the government, not some spew off a web site that wants everyone to believe he was born in a foreign country (that has been disproved so often it’s just tired), so if you’re insisting he’s really African or Chinese or something you probably think the moon landings were fakes and Elvis is flipping burgers on the late shift.

Remember the system of checks and balances? Did you learn this in high school? Then you remember, the President is the top elected person, the Chief Justice of the Supremes is the top Judicial Person, and the President is sworn in by the Chief Justice. The Presidential Oath is required by the Constitution. If there had been absolute proof (again, VALIDATED proof) that this man was an enemy of the American people, Justice Roberts would not have administered the oath.

Personal beliefs are a little bit different. That’s something protected by the 1st Amendment. But there’s not really any evidence the President has personal Marxist beliefs. Sure, he’s studied with some Marxist teachers, but as the actor MacLean Stevenson (Col. Blake on MASH) once said, if teachers made that kind of impact “I would have grown up to be a nun.”

It’s a free country. You want to believe the President is a Commie, it’s your right. It doesn’t make any sense, but feel free.

19 Comments

  • .TOM says:

    Sorry Ruthless, but I can define communism , not by a few antiseptic words in a dictionary but by the results it has achieved every time and everywhere in the world it was imposed.

    That one word is ………. FAILURE.

    Below are just a few of the myriad reasons it never worked for long in the past, and never will work as a permanent economic system, and certainly not here in the USA no matter how close Obama and his Czars try to push us into it. Hell, even a watered down version of communism, like socialism, that takes control of the means of production but not all personal property doesn’t work.

    The death spiral we are now witnessing of the European socialist experiment is a fine example of my point. In addition, Americans are a different breed, our personal freedom will not be handed over to the state.

    I have other words to define communism, they relate to what it does to a society, and explains why it can’t work for long, but the dictionary doesn’t go into these aspects of what a communistic system accomplishes in an advanced industrialized nation like ours that has benefited by and was built by a well regulated Capitalistic economic system operating within a Republic.

    JUST REMEMBER

    “YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS” Mathew 7:20

    1 Kills the flame of the free human spirit

    2 Kills ambition to compete and achieve

    3 Encourages sloth

    4 Discourages belief in GOD and /or religion and therefore charity

  • “…no matter how close Obama and his Czars try to push us into it.”

    Tom, do you understand anything you read? Or do you just start typing? I explained what an actual Communist would do in Obama’s position, and he’s not doing anything of the kind. FDR and LBJ were radical lefties next to him. Tom, you carry on about what a big old Commie Barack Obama is and you can’t name one thing that he’s done that qualifies him as a Marxist, Leninist, Trotskyist, or any kind of socialist, and I’ve given a load of support to my arguments. If there were actual, validated proof that he is out to turn the US into a Socialist Republic, he Would. Not. Have. Been. Sworn. In. As. President. Maybe the “validated” part confuses you since you keep babbling about his birth certificate, in the face of all reason and proof. It sounds suspiciously like bigotry, Tom, since other Presidents have talked about many of the same issues, but Obama is the first one in office with an African last name and dark skin.

    This “advanced industrialized nation” does most certainly NOT have a “well regulated Capitalistic economy system”. Where the hell have you been? Between Reagan and the Bushes, the regulations came OFF. As I said, we have a few enormous greedy banks running amok and devastating our economy and everyone else’s. Additionally, we have American companies abandoning American workers for cheap overseas sweatshop labor.
    As far as your lame interpretation of Matthew, it reminds me that Gandhi said, “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.” You know what “kills the flame of the free human spirit”, Tom? Pretending that everyone in the good ol US of A has a fair shake. Oh, yeah, the white straight Christian men just happen to be better than everybody else, nothing to do with any fiddling to make sure they got all the good stuff. “Encourages sloth, kills ambition”–right, and George W. Bush just got to the White House because he worked harder than everybody else. “Discourages belief in God…and therefore charity”–Oh, PLEASE. The Catholic Church is doing just fine all by itself with that one!! When religion is used to tell the lowest of the low that God wants them to obey their masters, it’s being misused and the revolutionaries will naturally want nothing to do with it. Tsarist Russia was miserable for everyone who wasn’t rich, and if you didn’t belong to the Orthodox Church it was even worse. I’m thinking of the pogroms against the Jews (so much for Christian kindness).
    In the USA, slaves were told much the same: accept slavery, God wants you to. Apparently, lots of American Christians have thought it was fine to slaughter Indians, lynch Blacks, and hate on anybody different. And I’m not talking about a hundred years ago, Dude.
    Tom, you’re a bigot and an idiot. It’s a free country, you’re free to be whatever you want, but why the hell do you want to be an asshole?

  • .TOM says:

    Thanks Ruthless.
    I can see why you use that name since much of your response is an ad-hominem attack against me. Always go for the bigot/racist words because they work. They are not true in my case but they’ll work anyway, they always do. It has now become the official defense method of the left.

    Your getting your turn at running things now, what more could you want. Rome wasn’t built in a day. It takes time to twist things to your will. Look how long it’s been since Woodrow Wilson. Well now you get your shot. Lets see how good it gets. We will be brought down low enough to satisfy people that leftist driven secular progressivism doesn’t work and some day we will start to rebuild again using a “well regulated Capitalism” to again enlighten the American spirit.

    If you bother to look below the surface of events you will come to find that the Bureaucrats the were supposed to be doing the regulating were too busy enjoying themselves with other matters rather than regulating. Greed is a human fault it will always be there, that was why the regulations were put in place. Now we need bureaucrats that will do their jobs. Greed and communism , is there a worse combination?

    Just answer one question could the system now being set up by Obama have built the country he is now converting to his likes, a veritable heaven for moochers and malingerers?.

  • “I can see why you use that name since much of your response is an ad-hominem attack against me.”

    Tom,

    If you remember the Marx Brothers’ “Duck Soup” (and that’s Groucho, Harpo, Chico and Zeppo, not Karl), you’ll know about the name. It’s nothing to do with you, ex, indirectly, your attitude.

    Always go for the bigot/racist words because they work.

    Well now, Tom, you keep attacking the President and calling him a Communist but you can’t offer one bit of support for your argument. Other Presidents have called for more radical programs than he has–did you read what I wrote, or are you just having a knee-jerk reaction here?–but you don’t seem to mind as much about LBJ and The Great Society, for ex. So I’m thinking, it must be that LBJ was white and Obama isn’t. Or do you just prefer Texans?

    “Your getting your turn at running things now, what more could you want. Rome wasn’t built in a day. It takes time to twist things to your will.”

    Huh? Tom, how long was George W. in office?

    “Look how long it’s been since Woodrow Wilson. Well now you get your shot. Lets see how good it gets.”

    Say what?

    “We will be brought down low enough to satisfy people that leftist driven secular progressivism doesn’t work and some day we will start to rebuild again using a “well regulated Capitalism” to again enlighten the American spirit.”

    “well regulated Capitalism”–”leftist driven secular progressivism”–have you visited the Planet Earth lately? You have yet to show how Obama is doing anything leftist, secular, progressive, and I keep asking. And that Well-Regulated Capitalism is hanging out with Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. Prove otherwise. The gang @ the unemployment office is waiting eagerly to hear where the jobs are.

    “If you bother to look below the surface of events you will come to find that the Bureaucrats the were supposed to be doing the regulating were too busy enjoying themselves with other matters rather than regulating.”

    Go on. What “Bureaucrats”, on whose watch, “enjoying themselves”, where? And, ummm, the government was powerless to stop the party? My oh my. And we have a Central Intelligence Agency? Damn those Russkies, they’re far too clever for us Yanks!

    “Greed is a human fault it will always be there, that was why the regulations were put in place.”

    And the regulations were stripped by Reagan and Cheney’s hand-puppet, Dubya.

    “Greed and communism , is there a worse combination?”

    Tom, I don’t know how communism got in there. Goldman Sachs and Bank of America don’t qualify, and they’ve had the freedom to be as greedy as they want at the expense of the rest of us.

    “Just answer one question could the system now being set up by Obama have built the country he is now converting to his likes, a veritable heaven for moochers and malingerers?.”

    Tom, I wrote a post about that. Why don’t you read it? By the way, it’s my very last post for this blog. I’m tired of being the token leftie here and not getting paid for hanging with people who don’t reason worth a damn. Do you guys ever think about why you believe what you believe? Cause it’d be news to me.

    Why is this blog called Not Your Mom’s Blog? If my mom had a blog, it’d be a lot more intelligent than this one.My mom, by the way, is a veteran of JFK’s campaign and White House. (Yeah, I know, that’s where I get some of my crazy ideas.) Seriously, “Stop your crying or I’ll give you something to cry about” –what’s that about? I expected more. So Tom, I’ll read and answer comments for my last post and then you and the rest of the gang can carry on about Arizona and Sarah Palin and Pat Robertson all you want. If I want to hang with knuckle-draggers, the National Zoo is a short walk from where I live.

    Ruthless T (“Hail, Hail Freedonia”)

  • .TOM says:

    The following article is not my words, I only take credit for being aware enough to submit this piece as a response. It is submitted in view of the present regiem’s position on border control and it’s deliberate dereliction of sworn duty and trust as President by not enforcing existing federal law. He is thereby shaping the electorate to permenantly favor the left. To Obama the Constitution is an albatros around his neck, his plan to deal with it is to operate through his 18 Czars to bypass our weak legislators and seed the Supreme Court with as many lefties as he can, which will soon make it not so supreme. As he slowly amasses power we will get to know more about him. We certainly couldn’t find out much about him befor he was elected.

    Wherever you stand, please take the time to read this; it ought to scare the beejeebers out of you!

    We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado .. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington , DC , filled to capacity by many of America ‘s finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, ‘Mexifornia,’ explaining how immigration – both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California . He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

    Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America

    The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States . He said, ‘If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let’s destroy America . It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that ‘An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.”

    ‘Here is how they do it,’ Lamm said:

    ‘First, to destroy America , turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country… History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: ‘The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.’ Canada , Belgium , Malaysia , and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy , if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, Corsicans and Muslims.’

    Lamm went on:

    ‘Second, to destroy America , invent ‘multiculturalism’ and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal; that there are no 0cultural differences. Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

    ‘Third, we could make the United States an ‘Hispanic Quebec ‘ without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: ‘The apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricy and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.’ Lamm said, ‘I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.’

    ‘Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school.’

    ‘My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of ‘Victimology…’ I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority plation.’

    ‘My sixth plan for America ‘s downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other – that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precept. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games.. A common enemy, Persia , threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. ‘E. Pluribus Unum’ — From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the ‘pluribus’ instead of the ‘Unum,’ we will ‘Balkanize’ America as surely as Kosovo.’

    ‘Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits. Make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of ‘diversity.’ I would find a word similar to ‘heretic’ in the 16th century – that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like ‘racist’ or ‘xenophobe’ halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-cultum, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of ‘Victimology,’ I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America , it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them.’

    In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, ‘Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis’s book ‘Mexifornia.’ His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America .. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don’t read that book.’

    There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate ‘diversity.’ American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America Take note of California and other states. To date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell’s book ’1984..’ In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: ‘War is peace,’ ‘Freedom is slavery,’ and ‘Ignorance is strength..’

    Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don’t get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.

  • “The following article is not my words, I only take credit for being aware enough to submit this piece as a response.”

    So you agree with this nonsense. Got it.

    It is submitted in view of the present regiem’s position on border control and it’s deliberate dereliction of sworn duty and trust as President by not enforcing existing federal law. He is thereby shaping the electorate to permenantly favor the left.

    Tom, the statistics don’t support that. The Arizona border is packed with officers. Since our economy tanked, the Mexicans aren’t so interested in coming, anyway. And you know what, if American businesses didn’t HIRE the illegals, they wouldn’t have any reason to come at all, now would they?

    Furthermore, Obama’s been President since Jan ’09. How long have those immigrants been coming?

    “To Obama the Constitution is an albatros around his neck,”

    –actually it was Dubya who referred to that document as “just a piece of paper”–and Gitmo for one is an example of his (well, Cheney’s) contempt for its protections. (Speedy trial, anyone?)

    “his plan to deal with it is to operate through his 18 Czars to bypass our weak legislators and seed the Supreme Court with as many lefties as he can,”

    oh, please!!! Kagan is about as much of a wild-eyed Marxist as he is!!! And to tilt the Court to the left, he’d have to murder Scalia, Thomas, and–oh, I get it, this is one of those secrets that only you and your special friends know about (wink!) Would you mind letting the rest of the Supremes know they better hire some food tasters? Or would that spoil it for all of you down at the Rubber Room?

    ” which will soon make it not so supreme.”

    Tom, it ain’t been Supreme since Bush Sr. said Clarence Thomas was a fit successor to Thurgood Marshall.

    “As he slowly amasses power”

    —???he’s the PRESIDENT, Tom. Of the UNITED STATES. What do you mean, “as he slowly amasses power”? He’s the leader of the free world already!!!!

    ” we will get to know more about him. We certainly couldn’t find out much about him befor he was elected.”

    Oh, sure you could. If you didn’t have your head stuck up your ass,I mean. He gave a speech @ the previous Democratic Convention that got attention, and he was in Chicago politics before he was in Congress–and you can look it up, Dude. You can find out what he accomplished in Chicago, the Senate,where he went to school, read his old speeches, find his voting record, probably find out what movies he and Michelle like.

    So OK, what do you think is enough to “scare the bejeebers out of you”?

    BY THE WAY, TOM: YOU STILL HAVE NOT PROVIDED ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE THAT OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST.

    “We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado .. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington , DC , filled to capacity by many of America ’s finest minds and leaders.”

    Tom, you have not identified the conference, and I think you and I would disagree big-time about “America’s finest minds and leaders”. Conferences in DC are a dime a dozen. So big deal, someone rented a hotel ballroom.

    “A brilliant”

    –says who? where’s the diploma come from? Did he ever win the Jeopardy Tournament of Champions?–

    “college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, ‘Mexifornia,’ explaining how immigration – both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California . He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.”

    California has an immigrant for a Governor, dude!!! And for many years, the California-Mexican border was a pretty fluid thing. People came and went, were born on either side, and there wasn’t much ado about it. You can look it up. I know from personal experience, having had a Chicano roommate from LA with this situation.
    I also take exception to these remarks about immigrants, legal and otherwise, destroying California. My paternal grandparents emigrated to California. For that matter, all of us who aren’t American Indians are immigrants or their descendants.
    I’m not gonna dignify that crap about The American Dream.

    “First, to destroy America , turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country… History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures.”

    Yeah, I hear Switzerland is a real dump. (You know the Swiss have 4 official languages?)

    ‘Second, to destroy America , invent ‘multiculturalism’ and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture.’

    What’s your point? You better not come to my neighborhood, we’ve got the biggest Salvadoreno population in the US, and a lot of North and West Africans too.Brazilians, Asians,French… You should see what happens on the weekends. The restaurants are packed!

    “Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal; that there are no 0cultural differences.”

    Tom, I read something else you wrote where you confused “equal” and “the same”. I don’t play soccer like Mia Hamm, but she and I are the same under US law. We each get one vote when there’s an election. I don’t have to be her carbon copy. See, we had to fiddle with the Constitution because the original said “all men are created equal” and meant it the way YOU mean it, and that’s messed up.

    “Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.”

    Yeah, cause y’know, genetically some ethnic groups are just inferior. Now, who does that sound like? And you say you’re not a bigot.

    ‘Third, we could make the United States an ‘Hispanic Quebec ‘ without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: ‘The apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricy and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.’ Lamm said, ‘I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.’

    Yeah, everybody should be the same. Who gets to decide what that is? It’s like with prayer in schools. Why does that somehow turn into Christian Protestant prayer in schools? Tom, YOU don’t get to decide. That is most definitely not the American Way.

    ‘Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated.”

    Well, you know how to fix that? Fix the schools so all students can go to good ones. Support real sex education instead of that abstinence crap that doesn’t work. Head Start. Healthy school lunches and breakfasts where needed cause kids don’t learn when they’re hungry. It’d mean compassion and actually making like Jesus. OMG.

    I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school.’

    Who are these people, Tom? Sounds to me like the Sharks and the Jets from “West Side Story”, and that was the 1950s.
    I’m concerned that these very general labels get to be awfully inclusive.

    ‘My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of ‘Victimology…’

    Hey, are big foundations passing out lots of money to ethnic types? For reals, Tom? I’m telling all my friends!!!

    Come ON, you big doofus.This is just stupid. Show me all these minorities getting the bling because they said “Lookit mee, I’m yellow” or whatever. Didja hear? American colleges had QUOTA systems for years and years. Oh, and restricted country clubs, neighborhoods, places of work, shops, transportation–it was in all the papers, Tom.

    “I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority.”

    Well, whose idea was it? This gets really tiresome. White straight Christian men seem to be just absolutely nuts lately because you can’t have everything your way just because you’re white, male, straight and Christian. That used to work pretty well for you guys. Uh-oh, there’s a black man with a funny name in the White House!!! Scary!!!
    And historically, when times are bad, there’s gotta be a scapegoat. The mega-bankers have a lot to answer for, but are we stringing them up? We probably oughta be deporting some bankers! But all of a sudden, oohhh, those brown people are even worse than they already were!!! AZ wants to have everyone carry their citizenship papers. Germany started this thing called the Third Reich back in 1933. This sounds a lot like a re-make.

    “I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority plation.’

    Yeah, cause you know those people are just shiftless. Never have any valid complaints, like Brownie and his heckuva job in a largely black city. You think if Katrina and Rita had slammed the Upper East Side of NYC that Bush would’ve stayed @ the BBQ and FEMA would’ve been just as poky?

    ‘My sixth plan for America ’s downfall would include dual citizenship,

    That’s bullshit. Dual citizenship isn’t handed out like snacks. Check it out. For that matter, you need to check out most of the things you babble about. Did I mention that?

    “and promote divided loyalties.”

    That makes no sense, and sounds like something left over from HUAC. Now that was one bunch of fine Americans. They ruined lives with their witch hunts, for no good end.

    “I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities.”

    Again, Tom—you’re really confused, and probably frightened, about diversity. We don’t all have to be Just Like You.

    “Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other – that is, when they are not killing each other.”

    Except where they aren’t. You make it sound like the only solution is for everyone to be Xerox copies of–well, you, probably. Cause everyone else is a heathen sinner. I read your posts, dude!

    “Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate ‘diversity.’”

    No, Tom. Women from other countries seek asylum here to escape genital mutilation in their home countries. Turn off Rush Limbaugh, he’s an oxycontin junkie and he makes up stuff.

    “American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America Take note of California and other states. To date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast.”

    American jobs have relocated overseas because the labor is cheap. The Gap, Converse, Nike,Levi Jeans–they’re just a few of the companies that have workers living in dorms and working all kinds of hours for pennies to make your sneakers. That’s got nothing to do with the people who have your knickers in a twist, though.

    “It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don’t get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.”

    Aaaannnnd, cue the music, lights up on the Flag waving in the breeze, and CUT! What a load of crap. And it still says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about why Obama is supposedly a pinko Commie traitor to the US. It says a load about what a crazy old hater you are,though, Tom.

    A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precept. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games.. A common enemy, Persia , threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. ‘E. Pluribus Unum’ — From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the ‘pluribus’ instead of the ‘Unum,’ we will ‘Balkanize’ America as surely as Kosovo.’

  • .TOM says:

    Rufus is not the same as Ruthless, but I digress.

    Thanks for exposing yourself so thoroughly. I need add nothing you’ve said it all and reasonable citizens will evaluate your remarks for themselves.

  • “Rufus is not the same as Ruthless”

    My God, you’re thick.

    “Thanks for exposing yourself so thoroughly.”

    Oh, is that what I did? I notice you still haven’t done a damn thing to back up your lame claim that the President is a Commie. Or the other claim you made, the one that you’re not a bigot. What’s holding you back, Tom, some leftie conspiracy?

    “I need add nothing you’ve said it all and reasonable citizens will evaluate your remarks for themselves.”

    And if any of them stop by this page, they can do that. Now go and iron your robes for tonight’s meeting, you don’t want to show up for the cross burning looking all messy.

  • .TOM says:

    Didn’t you say you were done with us knuckle draggers.

    These are the same people who have worn out their knuckels from helping practically the entire world and who also more than likely paid for your education. Why then isn’t that same system, with all its safety nets, good enough for others with ambition?

    Asking for a helping hand is one thing, demanding it is quite another and name calling is for the sand box.

    The list of what Obama’s leftest convictions have done to financially damage this country is too long to get into here but we both know it’s going to grow unless stopped. For example fire the CEO of a private company, limit salarys of employees and steal the GM bond holders value and award it to the UAW. Doesn’t this sound like socialism to you? How about telling you what you can-no must own, sounds close to commie thinking to me.

    His appointees, with their commie backgrounds and baggage are being pushed at us without apology. Their sub-rosa activities are deliberate and vital to his intentions.

    Nov.11 will send the needed message.

  • “Didn’t you say you were done with us knuckle draggers.”

    Do try and keep up. I said that this was my last post, but I’d respond to the comments. Hmmm, you’re the only one commenting. Maybe that’s because you made the original claim on this blog that Obama is a Communist. AND YOU STILL HAVEN’T BACKED IT UP, TOM.

    “These are the same people who have worn out their knuckels from helping practically the entire world”

    Oh ho. And enriching themselves plenty at the expense of other countries where we were “just helping”. Your buddy Jaye “Truth” sneered at Haitians for being poor. Said something like, sending aid after that earthquake is throwing good money after bad. Well, gee, did you know we had their national treasury for over a hundred years? Do you have any idea how much our country meddled with their elections and their economy so that their exports would be worthless and they’d be under the thumb of dictators?

    “and who also more than likely paid for your education.”

    No, as a matter of fact, you and yours didn’t pay for my education. How would that have happened, Tom? I was lucky enough that I didn’t have to worry about my college tuition. Most of my friends at school had to get through on work-study, loans, scholarships, and the like. And it’s gotten much worse since then. However, my ex is from a Commonwealth country, and because he did very well in secondary school he got a free ride on Her Majesty all the way through to his Phd. And you know what a raving Commie Elizabeth II is!

    “Why then isn’t that same system, with all its safety nets, good enough for others with ambition?”

    Uhhh. Tom. The system is like all fucking broken and stuff. And it never worked for a whole lot of people. That’s kind of why there was a civil rights movement? Cause if you were Black in the South, Tom, you could be real ambitious and everything, but you couldn’t get the good jobs. You couldn’t even be sure you could ride the bus to the job you had, shop for a nice suit @ a good store so you looked businesslike, eat @ a lunch counter, find a bathroom, and live in a nice neighborhood. It’s in the history books, Tom, ex. in Texas.

    “Asking for a helping hand is one thing, demanding it is quite another and name calling is for the sand box.”

    Which you never do, Tom. It’s just right to label Some People as shiftless and un-American and some of the other choice things you’ve called, lessee, people who come here from other countries, people who don’t turn into a “Leave It To Beaver”-type family as soon as they arrive,and I think my grandparents were in there someplace.

    “The list of what Obama’s leftest convictions have done to financially damage this country is too long to get into here but we both know it’s going to grow unless stopped.”

    No WE don’t. YOU STILL HAVEN’T PROVEN A DAMN THING. I keep pointing that out. You’re still not doing anything to back up your claim. What’s up with that? Because you CAN’T? Because it’s a load of CRAP?

    “For example fire the CEO of a private company, limit salarys of employees and steal the GM bond holders value and award it to the UAW. Doesn’t this sound like socialism to you? How about telling you what you can-no must own, sounds close to commie thinking to me. ”

    Actually, that sounds like a garbled rant. Explain yourself–for a change.

    Anyone who gave the mega-banks a bail-out, with Your Tax Dollars, Tom, is most definitely NOT a Commie. I mean, why on earth would a real fan of Vladimir Lenin or Chairman Mao want to save the Capitalist pigs who foreclose on the homes of the proletariat right and left?

    “His appointees, with their commie backgrounds and baggage are being pushed at us without apology. Their sub-rosa activities are deliberate and vital to his intentions.”

    This sounds like paranoia. Seriously. You’re just not making any sense. And you STILL. HAVEN’T. SHOWN. WHAT. PROVES. OBAMA. IS. A COMMUNIST. Saying, “He and his Czars are communists, yes they are, they are, they are!” is not proof. And you have some damn strange ideas about our government and some kind of kooky amnesia. After 8 years of Bush-Cheney–remember them?–, ANYONE who won the last election would have faced a godawful mess. But no, anything that’s wrong is due to this scary scary bogeyman. You just can’t talk sense about why he bothers you so damn much. Oh, I know. You just don’t like Hawaiians.

    “Nov.11 will send the needed message.”

    Huh? Nov. 11 is VETERAN’S DAY.

    My mother’s father got his US citizenship for his military service. How ’bout that, Tom! Sorry, what kind of message is Veteran’s Day supposed to send?

  • .TOM says:

    Your mother’s father deserves his citizenship for his service. That is more than we get out of a lot of able bodied people now in this country. I served during the Korean war, but not in the combat theater, 21$ per month as I remember.

    Let me clear up my so called “garbled rant.”

    Obama fired and replaced his originally appointed CEO of GM. Is that meddling?

    Obama allows new CEO of GM to claim on TV that it paid off it’s loan with interest. Yes using our tax money, the liar. Sounds like Obama’s boy.

    Obama appoints one of his 18 Czars and charges him to oversee control and limit business salaries and performance based awards. What a nice leftist touch.

    Obama allows the legit GM BOND holders to get only 5 cents on a dollar for their holdings. Income redistribution I think they call it.

    Obama lets the UAW have 40% of GM (Gettlefinger Motors)

    Obama and the UAW now control both GM and Chrysler, Say what?

    Obama gets involved in managing our personal property by making it mandatory that we have to buy medical insurance. It’s not freedom of choice as I see it.

    Will Obama get into the next round of labor negotiations at GM since his pals from the UAW will be negotiating with themselves on both sides of the table.

    As I said, November elections will start the clean up of Washington corruption. The real change that people wanted will start and Obama will have to work with new people in both houses who are not charmed by his oratory. It could mean a one term presidency for the man.

  • jayetruth says:

    It is so hard to argue with some folks.

    Socialism–by its very definition: “Socialists generally share the view that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and derives its wealth through a system of exploitation. This in turn creates an unequal society, that fails to provide equal opportunities for everyone to maximize their potential, and does not utilize technology and resources to their maximum potential nor in the interests of the public”.

    Therefore–Socialist are trying to take from those that make and “spread it around”.

    Who said that?

    Oh–

    Well damn.

  • “Your mother’s father deserves his citizenship for his service.”

    Wow, Tom. That’s big of you. If my grandfather were still with us I’d tell him you said that. I don’t know if this is something immigrants can still do.

    “That is more than we get out of a lot of able bodied people now in this country.”

    Well, some of those people are Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, and Rush Limbaugh. When Cheney ran out of student deferments, he knocked up his wife (check the birthdate). Dubya got his dad to pull strings to get him a pilot’s gig safe back home, and he didn’t even finish it. And Rush got a doctor’s note that said he couldn’t go to Vietnam because he had a pimple on his ass. Seriously! I don’t know what he paid the doctor to say that this cyst on his heinie just might get infected if he had to sit in a foxhole. Of course, on his radio show he insisted he WOULD have gone but, hem hem! there was this old football injury, hemhem hem.I don’t have a problem with the guys who were against the war and didn’t want ANYONE to go. I have a big issue with the guys who wanted everyone else to go while they stayed home.

    “I served during the Korean war, but not in the combat theater, 21$ per month as I remember.”

    Well, adjusted for inflation, I bet the soldiers in 2010 aren’t coming out ahead of you. I had a next-door neighbor here for ages who worked @ the VA Hospital here and lots of the new vets are homeless.

    Anyway, you’re a veteran. Enjoy the parade in Nov. I used to call up an elderly male relative every Veteran’s Day and thank him for winning WWII, since he told it like he’d handled the S. Pacific all by himself. :)

    “Let me clear up my so called “garbled rant.”

    Obama fired and replaced his originally appointed CEO of GM. Is that meddling?”

    Whoa.
    That whole mess with the Big 3 car makers pre-dates Obama. You may not like what he did when he inherited it, but a REAL Communist would have nationalized GM and for that matter, Chrysler, Ford, Lee Jeans, Coca-Cola,Oprah Winfrey’s production company, Starbuck’s,Marlboro cigarettes, and so on and so on. THAT’s Communism. Everything goes to The People! It’s not like there’s one Boris Badinof type who tells Natasha, “We pick on Dat Guy”.

    “Obama allows new CEO of GM to claim on TV that it paid off it’s loan with interest. Yes using our tax money, the liar. Sounds like Obama’s boy.”

    Uhhh–Obama’s not a dictator, he doesn’t control what people can say on TV. And I wouldn’t call anyone “boy” in this context…

    “Obama appoints one of his 18 Czars and charges him to oversee control and limit business salaries and performance based awards. What a nice leftist touch.”

    Let’s have a little history here.

    In 2007–who was President in 2007? Hint: not Barack Obama!!–GM and Chrysler declared bankruptcy. The UAW stepped in and made a deal. The union would take over pensioners’ healthcare from the carmakers in exchange for a big chunk of shares in both companies. The deal was accepted. You don’t have to like it, you can reasonably argue that there are conflicts of interest, but no one held a gun to anyone’s head, the companies got something in exchange for their shares (they wouldn’t have gotten anything if the companies had gone under), and Obama was–still a Senator.

    “Obama allows the legit GM BOND holders to get only 5 cents on a dollar for their holdings.
    Income redistribution I think they call it.”

    Ummm, that’s what happens to investments sometimes. And some of them were gonna hold their breaths and turn blue waiting for a bailout (like Bank of America, Wells Fargo and the gang).

    “Obama lets the UAW have 40% of GM (Gettlefinger Motors)”

    NO. that happened BEFORE he was President (who was President in 2007, Tom?), and GM and Chrysler made a deal (see above).

    Ron Gettelfinger seems like the sort of guy you’d admire, Tom. You talk about The American Dream and ambition and all that. Well, here’s a chance to walk some of that talk. Ron G worked his way up from the line in a Ford factory to shop steward to Union leader!

    “Obama and the UAW now control both GM and Chrysler, Say what?”

    Obama has not nationalized GM and Chrysler. The UAW has a lot of shares in both companies (overseen by an independent 3rd party, but of course the union now has board seats) because of that deal made in 2007. Pre-Obama. Yes, Obama/the government can have more say-so than usual–because these 2 companies TANKED. They ran themselves into the ground doing everything their own way! (Inconsistent with the bank bailout? Sure, but that’s another story, and it still doesn’t make the President a Communist.)

    “Obama gets involved in managing our personal property by making it mandatory that we have to buy medical insurance. It’s not freedom of choice as I see it.”

    Well, personally, I think we need a different program than the weenie one that was the end product, but damn, we need national health insurance! We’re just about the only 1st-world country that doesn’t have it, and medical costs are just insanely expensive in the US. Health isn’t a luxury, and right now it’s priced like it. I don’t see this as interference with your 1st-amendment freedoms. I think being against this is like saying “I want a chance to go broke!!! Please, let me live dangerously cause I love knowing that if I have to have surgery I’m gonna lose my house and live in a cardboard box!!”

    “Will Obama get into the next round of labor negotiations at GM since his pals from the UAW will be negotiating with themselves on both sides of the table.”

    Happened before he got there.Deal made in 2007–Barack in the Senate—

    I’m sure you were righteously indignant when Halliburton got contracts during the Bush-Cheney years, weren’t you, Tom?

    “As I said, November elections will start the clean up of Washington corruption.”

    Which just started in Jan. 09? Come on, Tom.

    “The real change that people wanted will start and Obama will have to work with new people in both houses who are not charmed by his oratory.”

    Don’t be a sore loser. Reagan was a smooth talker who peddled a ton of fertilizer with “It’s morning in America” and “The Evil Empire” and “Now, there you go again!” And he ran up a deficit bigger than all combined deficits of every previous administration. Oh. And to show his support for the kiddies, he insisted ketchup qualified as a vegetable for school lunch programs.

    “It could mean a one term presidency for the man.”

    Well, he might be a one-term President, but it won’t be due to anything you’ve said about him, Tom. You said he was a Communist! BUT YOU CAN’T PROVE IT.

  • “Socialist are trying to take from those that make and “spread it around”.”

    No, JT. Socialism–(and communism is a kind of socialism)–is not some kinda-sorta Robin Hood deal where people you don’t like go around willy-nilly taking stuff, and giving it to their friends. Believe it or not, the whole country has to change. You know what doesn’t change, though? The Right insisting that there are Commies under the bed. Look at your history. The Republicans are called The Party of No because for decades now, you guys have said NO to health care, jobs programs, the civil rights movement, unions, gay rights, the women’s movement, immigrants, raising the minimum wage, Head Start, action on global warming–basically, anything that says the privileged white straight men have to move over. Theft! What about the free market? It’s the end of mom, marriage, freedom, baseball, apple pie, puppies! The godless heathens are coming! Dudes. It gets OLD. You pull this crap every time you get scared. Nobody’s a freakin’ Communist around here. I wish Obama leaned a whole lot more to the left than he does! We could use another WPA type program like in the Great Depression. Again, you two have yet to show one bit of evidence that there’s any Communism going on w/ Obama. We’ve been going on and on and I keep saying “show me” and you CAN’T.

  • TOM says:

    We could use another WPA type program like in the Great Depression. Again, you two have yet to show one bit of evidence that there’s any Communism going on w/ Obama. We’ve been going on and on and I keep saying “show me” and you CAN’T.

    First
    The WPA and the CCC didn’t get us out of the depression WWII did, So much for lefty thinking by FDR.

    Second
    If they pay you for blogging they are wasting their money. I’m most likely the only one reading it and I’m not impressed.

    Third
    Prove Obama is not a Marksist. His friends know he is. His education shows he is. Would you believe he attended the same church for 20 years but never really heard what the rev. was saying. Please have mercy.

    Fourth
    The UAW, Obama’s pals, helped bring down the automotive business with their unrealistic demands, now they have control of both GM and Chrysler. They used their gun to the head negotiating tactics by dealing with the weakest auto company, squeezing them to bleed an intolerable amount of red ink to force a settlement, then they move on to the next weakest and tell them this is what we got from company X so we want at least this from Y, otherwise you bleed. So on and on the negotiating merry go round went. It continued on until the foreign companies gained in sales. It seems the UAW wasn’t concerned. Maybe they could see into the future and knew if they did everything they could to get Obama elected all would be coming up roses for them. During the hearings, when the auto executives were getting skinned alive for flying to Washington and other things. I noticed Gettlefinger didn’t look the least bit concerned. Now I know why. He knew how it was going to be resolved ahead of time. It was an inside job.

    Fifth
    Let’s just wait and see what happens to the corrupt mess after the next election. I know I don’t want any collectivists running my life and I vote.

  • First
    “The WPA and the CCC didn’t get us out of the depression WWII did, So much for lefty thinking by FDR.”

    Oh, Tom, that’s complete and utter bullshit.The WPA created so many jobs it should make your head spin, if it wasn’t stuck where there isn’t any daylight. It also lasted well into WWII, so what was that all about, if the war was getting the country so prosperous? Oh, right, FDR was a Commie.

    “Second
    If they pay you for blogging they are wasting their money. I’m most likely the only one reading it and I’m not impressed.”

    teeheehee! you’re not the best judge of quality, are you now? I usually do get paid for my stuff, Tom. I took this gig after being led to believe that there was going to be $$. Maybe JayeUnTruth spends it all for booze, I dunno. Or yeah, no one’s reading this, which I’d believe cause most of this blog is indeed “something to cry about”, so there aren’t any donations.

    “Third
    Prove Obama is not a Marksist. His friends know he is. His education shows he is.”

    HARVARD??????? Whoa.

    “His friends know he is”–oh, come on, Tom. What’dya do, have ‘em over to shoot hoops in the driveway?

    “Would you believe he attended the same church for 20 years but never really heard what the rev. was saying. Please have mercy.”

    Oh, is Rev. Wright a Commie? I thought he was just obnoxious. Sort of like that ol’ Billy Graham, who used to pal around with Nixon and the Bushes. He said “God does not hear the prayers of a Jew”. Yeah, he apologized after the public got mad, but you just know he believed he had The Word, just like his lovely son, who just said the same kind of nice things about Muslims and Hindus. But he got disinvited to the National Day of Prayer. Yaaayyyyy.

    “Fourth
    The UAW, Obama’s pals, helped bring down the automotive business with their unrealistic demands, now they have control of both GM and Chrysler.”

    Uhhhhh. The Big 3 drove themselves into the ground for not keeping up with the foreign carmakers. “Noooo, Americans want to drive big-ass cars that get 2 mpg!!”

    “They used their gun to the head negotiating tactics by dealing with the weakest auto company, squeezing them to bleed an intolerable amount of red ink to force a settlement, then they move on to the next weakest and tell them this is what we got from company X so we want at least this from Y, otherwise you bleed.”

    My God! Those Unions are freakin’ superhuman! Let’s send them to Afghanistan, we’ll have that Osama dude in about 5 minutes, and he’ll be our bitch in 10!

    “So on and on the negotiating merry go round went. It continued on until the foreign companies gained in sales.”

    Uhhh. They already were the clear winners over US companies. They had been for AGES. In Detroit, the pissed-off (and laid-off) used to smash the windows of Hondas and Toyotas and VWs. In the 70s, Tom.

    “It seems the UAW wasn’t concerned.”

    Here’s what Ron Gittelfinger said to The Guardian (UK) this past January @ the Detroit Auto Show:
    “..if GM had collapsed, they would have brought down Chrysler with them. They’d have brought Ford down too.” Does that sound like a guy who doesn’t care?

    And the UAW is dependent on the car industry, which is gasping and wheezing. If they don’t save it, their members don’t have ANYTHING. In 1979, the UAW had 460,000 of its members employed @ GM. By the end of this year they estimate it’ll be 42,000.

    “Maybe they could see into the future”

    Holy crystal ball, Batman!

    ” and knew if they did everything they could to get Obama elected all would be coming up roses for them. During the hearings, when the auto executives were getting skinned alive for flying to Washington and other things. I noticed Gettlefinger didn’t look the least bit concerned. Now I know why. He knew how it was going to be resolved ahead of time. It was an inside job.”

    Riiiight. You must love you some Glen Beck. He talks that kind of paranoid nutsy stuff, and he’s for-real schitzo and a long-term addict. Granting supernatural powers to the UAW is really out there, Tom. Wanna try for the Illuminati?

    Fifth
    “Let’s just wait and see what happens to the corrupt mess after the next election.”

    You keep saying that. If you think you can predict the future, go to Vegas.

    “I know I don’t want any collectivists running my life”

    stay out of North Korea

    “and I vote.”

    You know you can only do it once per election, right?

    Are we done here? I’m sure you and JayeTruthiness are late for your Ann Coulter Fan Club meeting.

  • TOM says:

    Here is your truth, You Antiamerican hack

    Click here: YouTube – cut & paste this, see what you get.

    Obama Admits He Is A Muslim#t=28

  • TOM says:

    Sort of causes a lump in your throat doesn’t it?!

    ——————————————————————————–

    “You old white people. It is your duty to die.”

    http://www.ccir.net/

    HISPANIC LEADERS SPEAK OUT

    Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets;

    “Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die . . Through love of having children, we are going to take over.

    Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council.

    “They’re afraid we’re going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They’re right. We will take them over . . .

    We are here to stay.”

    Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico,

    “The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without

    firing a single shot.”

    Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez,

    University of Texas;

    “We have an aging white America.

    They are not making babies. They are dying.

    The explosion is in our population . . . I love it.

    They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it.”

    Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, “Remember 187–proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens–was the last gasp of white America in California.”

    Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor,

    “We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country . . . I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, “I’m going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back.”

    Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Governor

    Jerry Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton, “California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn’t like it should leave.”

    Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General, “We are practicing ‘La Reconquista’ in California.”

    Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University; “We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos . . . ”

    Are these just the words of a few extremists? Consider that we could fill up many pages with such quotes. Also, consider that these are mainstream Mexican leaders.

    THE U.S. VS MEXICO:
    On February 15, 1998, the U.S. and Mexican soccer teams met at the Los Angeles Coliseum. The crowd was overwhelmingly pro-Mexican even though most lived in this country. They booed during the National Anthem and U.S. flags were held upside down. As the match progressed, supporters of the U.S. team were insulted, pelted with projectiles, punched and spat upon. Beer and trash were thrown at the U.S. players before and after the match. The coach of the U.S. team, Steve Sampson said, “This was the most painful experience I have ever had in this profession.”
    Did you know that immigrants from Mexico and other non-European countries can come to this country and get preferences in jobs, education, and government contracts? It’s called affirmative action or racial privilege. The Emperor of Japan or the President of Mexico could migrate here and immediately be eligible for special rights unavailable for Americans of European descent. Recently, a vote was taken in the U.S. Congress to end this practice. It was defeated. Every single Democratic senator except Ernest Hollings voted to maintain special privileges for Hispanic, Asian and African immigrants. They were joined by thirteen Republicans. Bill Clinton and Al Gore have repeatedly stated that they believe that massive immigration from countries like Mexico is good.

    They have also backed special privileges for these immigrants.

    Corporate America has signed on to the idea that minorities and third world immigrants should get special, privileged status. Some examples are Exxon, Texaco, Merrill Lynch, Boeing, Paine Weber, Starbucks and many more.

    DID YOU KNOW?:
    Did you know that Mexico regularly intercedes on the side of the defense in criminal cases involving Mexican nationals? Did you know that Mexico has NEVER extradited a Mexican national accused of murder in the U.S. in spite of agreements to do so? According to the L.A. Times, Orange County, California is home to 275 gangs with 17,000 members; 98% of which are Mexican and Asian. How’s your county doing?

    According to a New York Times article dated May 19, 1994, 20 years after the great influx of legal immigrants from Southeast Asia, 30% are still on welfare compared to 8% of households nationwide. A Wall Street Journal editorial dated December 5, 1994 quotes law enforcement officials as stating that Asian mobsters are the “greatest criminal challenge the country faces.” Not bad for a group that is still under 5% of the population.

    Is education important to you? Here are the words of a teacher who spent over 20 years in the Los Angeles School system. “Imagine teachers in classes containing 30-40 students of widely varying attention spans and motivation, many of whom aren’t fluent in English. Educators seek learning materials likely to reach the majority of students and that means fewer words and math problems and more pictures and multicultural references.”

    WHEN I WAS YOUNG:
    When I was young, I remember hearing about the immigrants that came through Ellis Island. They wanted to learn English. They wanted to breathe free. They wanted to become Americans. Now too many immigrants come here with demands. They demand to be taught in their own language. They demand special privileges–affirmative action. They demand ethnic studies that glorify their culture.

    HOW CAN YOU HELP?:
    Send copies of this letter to at least two other people, 100 would be even better. Help us get the word out.

    California Coalition for Immigration Reform
    5942 Edinger, Suite 113-117
    Huntington Beach, CA 92649
    Phone 714.921.7142

  • TOM says:

    FYI Ruthless

    America is Not a 50/50 Nation
    Don’t be fooled by polls or other ‘ratings’ that show Obama still receiving 42%-44% approval among the American people. If 65%-70% of the American people support the Arizona immigration law—and polls consistently show that they do—65%-70% of the American people do not approve of Obama. Talking-head gibberish ‘explanations’ about the nuances involved in disagreeing on one issue while still supporting Obama overall are just that, gibberish. Americans’ approval of the Arizona law is not passive or lukewarm, and it is not narrow. It is a ‘damn right!” and “it’s about time!” feeling that covers many more topics than just border security, and it is absolutely a proxy for Americans’ increasing rejection of Obama and everything he is doing. As we’ve written extensively, the Arizona immigration law has crystallized for more and more people a basic question about who in the world is this President?

    So don’t believe the next elitist who rolls out the standard lament about intractable problems and impossible-to-find solutions in a 50/50 nation. This is nothing but a liberal tactic designed to douse the fire of conservatism that is sweeping the country, and get spineless D.C. Republicans to return to ‘bipartisan’, reach-across-the-aisle accommodation to the leftist agenda. We aren’t a 50/50 nation; in fact, we’re approaching a 70/30 nation, which may actually be more unified than at any time since World War II. And it is a unity built around confidence in the core rightness of the ideals captured in America’s founding documents—a confidence deeply shared by most Americans without regard to party affiliation.

    There’s a major, and for Obama, very ominous, implication in all this: a 70/30 nation has within itself the power to remove this fraudulent administration, including the President. The House and Senate will bow to the will of the people eventually. The people are making their will known in record numbers using an unprecedented number of methods, but the tsunami of American opinion that would like to see this fraudulent President removed from office NOW hasn’t yet penetrated the Beltway’s mesmerized state of thought.

    Congressmen and Senators who return to home districts and states know full well how angry their constituents have become over an out-of-control, unaccountable government pursuing an agenda that was never made clear to the voters, much less endorsed. The insular D.C. media has so far been able to dilute Congress’ resolve to act in accordance with the wishes of the people. Democrat Party loyalty is still holding (though hanging by a thread), and that has been enough to keep Obama propped up. But Obama’s actions on so many fronts have been so far out of step with the American spirit and way of life that we believe the party loyalty thread is about ready to snap. When it does, the undiluted power of the 70/30 reality will materialize in a hurry, and Obama will face hostility and opposition on a scale he doesn’t comprehend and will not be able to defeat or deflect.

    The leftists think they can hold it all together with a combination of orchestrated public appearances and message control and coordination among the Pravda media. But this page from the playbook of the past is not enough anymore. Truth has a way of breaking through these schemes, and lies have a way of collapsing on themselves and those who spread them.

    Obama and his cabal have lied about their ‘laser-like’ focus on jobs; they have lied about their commitment to fiscal/budgetary responsibility and lower taxes; they have lied about their commitment to transparency in law-making; they have lied about their foreign and domestic alliances and sympathies; they have lied about their response to the oil spill; they have lied about the Arizona immigration law. And that’s not even close to a complete list.

    This regime really is, in its entirety, an imposition on America—an excessive and uncalled for burden that America did not seek and does not want. Americans want the regime removed from office. They will make this known in elections of course, but we think they will demand more, and sooner. The 70% have had enough, and Washington, D.C., is very close to getting the message. When Democrat Party loyalty finally snaps—and we think it will happen in the next 2-3 months as more and more Democrat office holders see themselves about to get sent packing in November—the entire political dynamic could turn radically against Obama and the whole regime.

    Can’t happen soon enough. We are not a 50/50 nation, and we need to stop accepting the paralysis that comes from the bogus belief that we are. Americans are united as never before in their desire for a return to the America of the founding, and they can make it happen sooner than any politician or pundit believes possible.

    Paul Gable

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